IJBM One Year Later

EDIT: I decided to revise this post up a bit, mostly to make it more succinct.

I rarely ever engage in “egosearching,” that is searching for your own name to see if anyone is talking about you. Most of the time, I’m just not interested. But today I made an exception.

I haven’t been to IJBM since the debacle, so I got to wondering what’s happening there. Long story short, after a few minutes of casual browsing I did an ego search for “Edmond Dantes” with the quote marks. And here’s some of the fun stuff I found:

One of the very first things I discovered was a topic about “Accidentally Stumbling Upon a Permabanned Member’s Posts” which, of course, talked about me several times (even though I’m not permabanned–I could return if I wanted to). First nugget is this thing by Juan

Dantes is not permabanned, though. He just quit the site because he thinks we’re horrible bullies because we use image macros.

good times

Who, reading this, and especially any of you with no previous knowledge of Juan, can read this and picture him as anything but a bully? Guy just impeached himself.

Also this post by MadassAlex.

Dantes, on the other hand, is someone who has earned some severe derision. Beyond his arrogance and distorted social perspectives, he was not shy to level personal insults, direct or indirect, at people who opposed his perspective. He was an instigator who threatened to drag others towards poor behaviour without making intelligent contributions or even being amusing beyond his fits of rage.

What Madass gleefully skips over is that IJBM was quite prone to flaming and insults without my help. Plenty of flame wars happened that I wasn’t involved in, and I was involved in plenty of topics that remained civil.

Besides that, during all the happenings at IJBM, I somehow was never involved in drama at TV Tropes or Digitpress, and its not like the people there always agree with me on everything. But I’m sure if Madass were confronted with this, he would simply ignore it as insignificant rather than consider he may be wrong.

I think he’s yet to have anyone outside the internet challenge his perspectives to a truly significant degree. Many of us have been through the process of having our perspectives and assumptions damaged to such a degree that necessitates character development, which makes Dantes’ extreme perspectives seem all the more immature. For someone who’s in his late 20s, he comes across more like an arrogant teenager than anything else, and it gives me the impression that he’s below his years in life experience.

And now Madass comes off like he’s just projecting. After all, he has to surround himself with a “me-too” community to feel secure in his beliefs. I don’t.

Now for this post from Juan:

I ctually sorta feel bad for dantes after listening to that call he sent to cygan ages ago when he was off his meds. But i can’t honestly have much respect fort someone who engages in that level of self harm in order to try and gain sympathy from others. Also, a blockhead at one time or another barely describes dantes. Oh, and i’m batman and alex is wonder woman

… I have absolutely no idea what Juan is talking about here. Sympathy grab? Is he talking about a different Edmond Dantes?

And yeah, apparently Cygan spreads confidential PMs. I’m glad I didn’t include my home address or anything.

And then we have Malkavian trying to rewrite history:

I imagine there are circumstances in his real life if I knew about them more fully that I’d sympatize with, but as for him getting his feelings hurt over people not liking the same cartoons as him? Yeah, no sell.

What Malkavian is neglecting to mention is that IJBMers never just politely disagree–they always have to be derisively snooty, as well. Just the other day, someone on TV Tropes told me “its great someone enjoys He-Man. Personally, I don’t.” Put it that way and I have no problem. But IJBMers always say something more like “You like He-Man? Pshaw. Loser!” IJBM also likes to dismiss a person’s views or credibility on the basis of their professed tastes in entertainment, even if you’re not talking about entertainment media. Naturally, this gets very annoying, and this is one of those things Malk is content to sweep under the rug.

Yes, I sometimes did this myself, but I did this because they did–I’ve never done likewise on TV Tropes or Digitpress, because those places are simply not that kind of community.

Okay, going to a different topic, here’s a post by Forzare:

And at one point he had a Konata sockpuppet who’s posts he ran through google translate to make it seem like it was actually from Japan. It talked a lot about how awesome Dantes was.

It was creepy.

You know what else is creepy? Continuing to be obsessed with a poster who you’ve had no contact with for almost a year.

And finally this:

Oi, this thread is making me miss Edmond Dantes. Is that a bad thing?

This itself wouldn’t be noticable, except that it was made two days ago. All this time, and IJBM still can’t let go. Apparently, in my time there I must’ve struck a serious chord. Or perhaps they’ve actually been stalking me across the other forums I visit and are shocked that *gasp* I actually don’t spend every waking moment of my life being mad at people who disagree with me.

IJBM is like a spoiled child: the whole reason that forum exists is because they wanted a site that was like TV Tropes, except catering entirely to their whims and only allowing the types of people they were comfortable with. They of course will never admit their own faults or shortcomings, but the whole reason IJBM exists is so they won’t have to. It’s like a Neverland of sorts for them. It’s all about blame-displacement. Everything is Fast Eddie’s fault, or else whatever unpopular poster happens to be the most notable at the moment. It’s also about creating a social hierarchy where they’re at the top. If this same drama had played out on TV Tropes, Fast Eddie and Madrugada would’ve likely ruled in my favor, and that’s why these people don’t like TV Tropes–they don’t like being told they’re wrong and not getting their way.

I could say more, but really, the case has been made.

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7 thoughts on “IJBM One Year Later

  1. One of the very first things I discovered was a topic about “Accidentally Stumbling Upon a Permabanned Member’s Posts”

    An entire thread dedicated to talking shit about people who can’t defend themselves?

  2. “And at one point he had a Konata sockpuppet who’s posts he ran through google translate to make it seem like it was actually from Japan. It talked a lot about how awesome Dantes was.”

    …I’m not gonna lie- that does actually sound a little creepy. Of course, I have to remember that this is Forzare- it’s entirely possible that the sockpuppet was a joke that he either didn’t get or deliberately misinterpeted.

    • Exactly.

      The original context was that I wrote a short story that *made fun of* Mai Waifu fantasies. It presented my insert as a morbidly obese, dangerously out-of-touch loser who had an entirely one-sided relationship with Konata (who hated my insert, constantly telling him to “go away” and sometimes even hitting him).

      Most people who read the story at the time, got it–they laughed along with me. But Forzare, Madass and several others used it as an attack opportunity (this was in the days before IJBM II’s founding–they were obsessed with me even then), and it got so bad that Madrugada had to threaten to ban them if they didn’t cut it out.

      I’ll admit I antagonized them a bit by carrying on the joke long past its expiration date, and the sockpuppet probably *was* going a bit too far. But that in no way justifies how they have behaved before, or how they continue to behave now, and its still an example of how IJBM will change facts to suit their beliefs.

      • “Forzare, Madass and several others used it as an attack opportunity (this was in the days before IJBM II’s founding–they were obsessed with me even then)”

        And it IS obsession, to be sure. I mean, “obsession” is a pretty loaded word, relatively speaking, and one I’m generally loathe to use unless the situation absolutely calls for it, but… Well, just look at those comments. Look at them!

        “I think he’s yet to have anyone outside the internet challenge his perspectives to a truly significant degree. Many of us have been through the process of having our perspectives and assumptions damaged to such a degree that necessitates character development, which makes Dantes’ extreme perspectives seem all the more immature. For someone who’s in his late 20s, he comes across more like an arrogant teenager than anything else, and it gives me the impression that he’s below his years in life experience.”

        …That is not how a normal, well-adjusted adult speaks about some guy on the internet whom he rather dislikes.

    • (hmm, apparently wordpress doesn’t allow deep threading in conversations. This should follow on from your comment about Madass)

      I’ll admit, there was a time when I said some pretty dopey things–apparently I had an anti-American kick that I was pretty extreme about and there was a time where I casually condoned murder, going by my posting history there.

      But then again, even I started to hate that stuff and made several posts near the end of my stay where I basically said “Yeah guys, I have no idea what the eff I was thinking.” And despite what they say I actually have apologized for a lot of my uncalled-for negative comments. That’s apparently not enough to sate the bloodhounds though.

      I wonder if they’ve seen my blog. I’m guessing not–if they had, I’m certain they’d be raiding it right now, or else making a topic about it.

  3. In my experience, the sites that are made by banned and disgruntled tropers, for banned and disgruntled tropers, have members that are just as bad as the ones on Tvtropes. Beyond the Lampshade is full of arrogant jackasses, for instance. And this is coming from someone who thinks FE is generally incompetent and not fit to singlehandedly run a site.

    And I have to say that I’m rather dissapointed with Madass Alex’s behavior here. I don’t agree with most of what he says in regards to stuff like Star Wars and fictional swordplay and the like, but I had always pegged him as one of the more level-headed tropers.

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